Арбитраж zelizzard

[Mark64]

I bought this program from the seller for 650 Usd where the seller provided me with two panels , 4 threads in total. I asked the seller to go through forum escrow but he keep denying giving several reasons such as the service is completely based on performance and what not. These excuses can be confirmed by chat images which i have posted on xss inbox. Then later on i offered the seller that i will pay half amount upfront because he said that he need to buy servers for this service , and i put half amount on escrow and mentioned this term clearly on record of xss deal.

Now when the bot started it worked perfectly , but in real it was just showing that it was clicking ads. We know our competitor , his budget is very small like 500 usd a day and cpc is 1.5 usd + . We saw that bot gave click of several hundred and still the ads are up. So we asked the seller about how we can track if the bot is clicking real or not and if its staying there for some time or not. The OP said that its working and we need to wait for some days. Whereas previous to selling he told me that it can finish 1k usd budget within a day. Anyway thats not a problem. We decided to track clicks and asked OP to provide us detailed analytics ( IP address ) of traffic thats clicking on ads so that we can confirm it with tracker report , to check whether same IP traffic is there or not. We asked this because in a previous arbitrage with other buyer the OP mentioned that he has all analytics , and the buyer used the services for more than 15 days. Here the OP argued that he dont have any such records and insisted us to use it for some days. I am sure that in last OP will say that why you keep on using it if you dont like the service. So i am opening this arbitrage early.

So the OP denied providing analytics to match. Then i asked the OP for other ways. He suggested to use semrush and told that you can see previous traffic and current traffic and it will prove that there is increase in traffic and click. I confirmed with OP if it will show live data. And the OP said that yes and it dont take invalid clicks in count. We bought semrush guru , and checked , and it showed no change in traffic or click. So we told OP that bot is not working. OP instantly changed his statement and said that it may take a month to show the difference. OP clearly wants to get money from arbitrage somehow.

Then today i thought of a new method to check it. So i put a domain https://thisdomainisnotreal.com in the include url , as my panel is to target competitor , now there is no such domain ad running on my keywords , and to my surprise , the bot started clicking on ads. When the ads does not exist , how the bot is clicking them. This can be confirmed by visiting the panel and trying for yourself.

I hereby appeal the arbitrator to instruct the OP to refund all money 650 usd in total , i can provide all chat screenshots if required. Also if the OP denies stating that he bought server and all excuses that he always make then the forum should refund me the amount in escrow and must close the thread and ban OP for ripping users here.

Attaching TG chats that are related to this arbitration. Previous msgs before deal are already in xss inbox and are confirmed by OP. Although these messages are just for proof because the Panel is live and can be checked by arbitrator. The server is live and OP cant change it without making it down. If the OP downs it then that also proves that he is culprit. I had paid for the servers and i am ready to bear the cost for these several days which should be around 30 USD for server IP bandwidth etc. The OP should not bring it down unless the arbitrator decides.

Futher proofs that its just a webpage and nothing is working behind it.

Hello. What is nickname of your opponent?

https://xss.pro/members/256302/

Here are further chats with the OP. He literally deleted all the chats. Then blocked me on TG. Next he is gonna delete the panel which was expected and i have mentioned it in this chat. He is just a scammer. Better to kick him off from the forum and save others.

This program literally clicked 3000 times on a ad that does not exist. Seriously this is the best program that someone can make.

 

[admin]

zelizzard, answer please.

 

[Mark64]

Recieved half upfront payment from the OP. Request admin to please release the remaining deposit on xss in my favour as the OP has claimed that he is reversing the whole transaction.

Admin i have provided enough proofs that this is a scam. Although the seller deleted the panel before you can check the results which i had warned in my post. But still you can check screenshots of the panel that it doesn't click at all. Request to mark the scheme as scam and block the OP from the forum.

 

[zelizzard]

I have responded in the PM of escrow, I am willing to show admin a panel of the bot and let them test themselves or watch a working one. I have nothing to hide, I just am not going to let a customer look at my bot and how it preforms as there are features we do not list to keep the bot undetected/dont want to expose too much info of its capabilities.

 

[zelizzard]

Submitted video proof of bot while running from panel and server side. I did not delete the convo to try to hide anything. I had already sent your refund prior to that and I was trying to block you entirely. How wold me wiping a chat that you had been screen shotting the entire time make me think I was wiping the chat? Secondly I decided to refund you because you one of the spastic customers who if they dont see every ad killed with the cheapest possible package constantly spam and blame me and my software without having full knowledge of what your even talking about.

Nonetheless, as stated I submitted video proof and will see what the admin has to say especially considering this arbitration was created after you were fully refunded with me having to take the hit for the price of your servers and bandwidth.

Edit: Yes, I asked the hosting company to cancel the servers as I had already refunded you in full including cost of servers and bandwidth, as for trying to say my software is non-existent/non-working you couldn't be further from the right. If anything you owe me money for wasting my time, money, and bandwidth.

 

[Mark64]

Although i got my refund and its none of my business , but still i will request admin to not get influenced by what you claim. Please take 5 minutes to check chat screenshots and screenshots of panel. There is no program in this world that can click on non existent ads. This guy is a serious scammer. He just made a simple panel and the bot does nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even if he has shown proof of something moving around and all , then its a simple clicker bot that can be made using any rpa.

OP has deleted the panel intentionally despite that the first message itself warns that it will make the arbitration case stronger and to let admin check the authenticity before deleting the panel , then i had argued the OP again on this when he tried to influence me on TG after arbitration start and OP knows very well that he got nuked this time.

 

[Mark64]

Submitted video proof of bot while running from panel and server side. I did not delete the convo to try to hide anything. I had already sent your refund prior to that and I was trying to block you entirely. How wold me wiping a chat that you had been screen shotting the entire time make me think I was wiping the chat? Secondly I decided to refund you because you one of the spastic customers who if they dont see every ad killed with the cheapest possible package constantly spam and blame me and my software without having full knowledge of what your even talking about.

Nonetheless, as stated I submitted video proof and will see what the admin has to say especially considering this arbitration was created after you were fully refunded with me having to take the hit for the price of your servers and bandwidth.

Edit: Yes, I asked the hosting company to cancel the servers as I had already refunded you in full including cost of servers and bandwidth, as for trying to say my software is non-existent/non-working you couldn't be further from the right. If anything you owe me money for wasting my time, money, and bandwidth.

The arbitration was made atleast 8 hour before you refunded my money and you tried to offer me 50 usd refund at first but since you know very well that its not gonna work so you initiated a refund instantly after blocking me. You had seen the arbitration but didn't reply here , instead try to made me change my mind over TG. You are a serious liar. Thanks to the screenshots which are made on every chat and that confirm the timing of chat.

Related to knowledge of your software that you claim , i believe 50% of users on xss knows what they are talking about and you are talking big big things but claim that you need a big drive on a big server to hold analytics data. Secondly you say that you didnt get time to implement analytics to your program , what analytics did it need , it just needs to record the IPs it was using , together with keyword thats searched and url thats clicked with time. Its all there. Where comes time to implement it.

You dont even have knowledge of making a login screen for your panel and you are talking me about knowledge. Even if i dont have knowledge , still i think i have better knowledge than you apart from that i dont know scamming.

You better dont argue and keep an eye on admin decision. I wish he got time to check all screenshots.

 

[zelizzard]

Although i got my refund and its none of my business

I will argue with anyone making false claims against me, and dont worry I am waiting for response you should be too. I love how much you "know" like that your servers were deleted yet whats odd is if I wanted I could turn the panel on for them at any moment until the host confirms the cancel. There are also ways in which the bot work that I don't publicly disclose so keep thinking you know everything. I've given enough evidence for my side. Keep making false claims such as my softwarae being non-existant and what you are trying to claim about me. I couldn't careless what you THINK considering I KNOW my software is real, and working. Nice try.

Won't be paying attention to this thread anymore til I see an admin response.

 

[admin]

Посмотрел, проанализировал. Финансовая часть претензии закрыта. Человек все вернул. Как на сейчас, претензий к zelizzard нет. Закрыто.

I looked and analyzed. The financial part of the claim is closed. The man returned everything. So as of now, no financial complaints to zelizzard. Closed.