Арбитраж Traffpost, moneyback, $108

[hKebab]

1. Traffpost
2. http://xss.pro/members/241012/
3. https://t.me/Traffpost_support
4,5... read next please...

I was ask Traffpost to help me to promote resource.

So the start price of whole work was:
$300 for registrations on the forums+create topic+description+post image+text
$500 top up every 3 days every topics with my promotion.
Total: $800

After talks we accept all this job for $500.

--- This is our deal from dialog ----
Me: I will have ~70 accounts to the "hackers" boards
Your service to up topics on forums for 1 month
And we can split payment for 2 parts 250 per one
Ok i am ready to pay 250 now
And after 2 weeks of your work till the end of month.
Anything else?
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Traffpost: Yes, you can divide the payment into 2 parts of 250 now, the rest after work.
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After two days he ask me to pay the rest $250, because he "did the work".

I ask to show me the links of what he did and i get

username:password + links to the topics

ok cool.

When i checked list which i got, there was 54 links total
16 - with not found topic (not found, topic deleted, user banned, premoderated topics)
1 - link just to profile on some forum.
37 - links with topics of my text and images.
(possibly premoderated mode was on 2-3 topics, i accidentally noticed this text over the post on some site, when already checked half of links)

I am looked on the type of boards which my promotion was posted and how many AD was there
+same forum engine+design at 1/3 of links, and i decided to stop continue work with TraffPost.
I do not like quality of this resources, they does not looks like "по ТОП форумам"

I tell him that i accept his work, and ready to pay for 53 links (even they was full of shit and topics was deleted or premoderated)

So he tells me that moneyback is not possible, and he continue work and i must pay to him.

I tired talk with that guy and come here to take my money by arbitrage.

I pay $250 and i want back my $108, how i calculated this?

$500 (total price for work which we accept)
On the start of negotiation it was $800 (300 for create accounts and 500 for promotion)

$500 is the 62.5% of $800

so first step acc registrations etc... costs: 300*0.625 = $187.5
second step of 1 month promotion costs: 500*0.625 = $312.5
$500 totally yea

i must have 70 accounts to the forums. so one account costs 187.5/70 = $2.68
but i got 53 +- valid accounts and he did work on 53*2.68 = ~$142

$250-$142 = $108 must be returned + email access which was used while registration on the forums.

 

[0x11]

Мда... Я думал только я попал на бабки =)
Заказал тоже рассылку по форумам 3 дня тому, оплатил 5000р и получил всего 882 уника из них Desktop 329 а винды на ленд попало 199, трафик дрочеры ( адальт ) конверт 18 ботов https://ibb.co/LpxfN5T
Сразу скажу выдавалось приват решение просто выдавал бы ехе вообще никуя бы небыло =)
Это самый дорогой адальт трафик который я покупал ~1к = 5кр =)

 

[Traffpost]

1. Traffpost
2. http://xss.pro/members/241012/
3. https://t.me/Traffpost_support
4,5... read next please...

I was ask Traffpost to help me to promote resource.

So the start price of whole work was:
$300 for registrations on the forums+create topic+description+post image+text
$500 top up every 3 days every topics with my promotion.
Total: $800

After talks we accept all this job for $500.

--- This is our deal from dialog ----
Me: I will have ~70 accounts to the "hackers" boards
Your service to up topics on forums for 1 month
And we can split payment for 2 parts 250 per one
Ok i am ready to pay 250 now
And after 2 weeks of your work till the end of month.
Anything else?
------------------------------------------------------
Traffpost: Yes, you can divide the payment into 2 parts of 250 now, the rest after work.
------------------------------------------------------

After two days he ask me to pay the rest $250, because he "did the work".

I ask to show me the links of what he did and i get

username:password + links to the topics

ok cool.

When i checked list which i got, there was 54 links total
16 - with not found topic (not found, topic deleted, user banned, premoderated topics)
1 - link just to profile on some forum.
37 - links with topics of my text and images.
(possibly premoderated mode was on 2-3 topics, i accidentally noticed this text over the post on some site, when already checked half of links)

I am looked on the type of boards which my promotion was posted and how many AD was there
+same forum engine+design at 1/3 of links, and i decided to stop continue work with TraffPost.
I do not like quality of this resources, they does not looks like "по ТОП форумам"

I tell him that i accept his work, and ready to pay for 53 links (even they was full of shit and topics was deleted or premoderated)

So he tells me that moneyback is not possible, and he continue work and i must pay to him.

I tired talk with that guy and come here to take my money by arbitrage.

I pay $250 and i want back my $108, how i calculated this?

$500 (total price for work which we accept)
On the start of negotiation it was $800 (300 for create accounts and 500 for promotion)

$500 is the 62.5% of $800

so first step acc registrations etc... costs: 300*0.625 = $187.5
second step of 1 month promotion costs: 500*0.625 = $312.5
$500 totally yea

i must have 70 accounts to the forums. so one account costs 187.5/70 = $2.68
but i got 53 +- valid accounts and he did work on 53*2.68 = ~$142

$250-$142 = $108 must be returned + email access which was used while registration on the forums.

In fact, you got 101 forums, why are you lying here impudently, you did more than agreed. There will be no return on my part, I have fulfilled all my conditions and agreements.
2.68 х 101 = 270.68 you still owe me 20.68$
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Мда... Я думал только я попал на бабки =)
Заказал тоже рассылку по форумам 3 дня тому, оплатил 5000р и получил всего 882 уника из них Desktop 329 а винды на ленд попало 199, трафик дрочеры ( адальт ) конверт 18 ботов https://ibb.co/LpxfN5T
Сразу скажу выдавалось приват решение просто выдавал бы ехе вообще никуя бы небыло =)
Это самый дорогой адальт трафик который я покупал ~1к = 5кр =)

У каждого свое мнение, я не кого не кидаю, работаю честно. Не зашло да бывает, форумы это длительный процесс продвижения. Вы должны это понимать.

 

[hKebab]

You must be kidding. I do not care what you did yesterday or today, when i ask moneyback it was 53 links which you sent me.

 

[Traffpost]

You must be kidding. I do not care what you did yesterday or today, when i ask moneyback it was 53 links which you sent me.

It doesn’t matter to me, too, what you write here yesterday today, in fact you got everything even more, why are you breeding demogygy here, you still have to pay me extra.

It doesn’t matter to me, too, what you write here yesterday today, in fact you got everything even more, why are you breeding demogygy here, you still have to pay me extra.

You are misleading people to ban for this!

 

[hKebab]

I'am waiting for admin

 

[Traffpost]

Админ и модератор вы только посмотрите что этот человек пишет про ваш форум

ПЕРЕВРОД НА РУ
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Хорошо, как я уже сказал, нам нужно продвигать нашу хакерскую доску, но я хочу спросить, сколько хакерских досок вы знаете, и как трудно найти много людей для нашего проекта? Может быть, вы знаете

Потому что у нас есть хороший анонимный проект, такой как доска, но люди не понимают, как это их защищает, если мы сравним нас с эксплойтом и xss, они используют так много javascripts, что это безумие...

И я проверяю сейчас XSS, например, дерьмо, если кто-то найдет ошибку на форуме, он может взломать любой аккаунт...

Я просто сожалею об этом... так трудно рассказывать людям о нас.
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[hKebab]

Unprofessional to leak details which does not apply to the main topic of conversation.
In this dialog i am showing my outrage. This is not general opinion, but seems you do not understand it.
If any itspec look to CORS configuration of xss. He will say the same, so what is wrong?
Scripts? Yes i hate that this is a lot of scripts and what?
Kid, just stop.

 

[Traffpost]

You yourself began to merge everything, dear from the air, you can say that you didn’t essentially do it all, I just show your essence who you are. What claims can be made to me? I fulfilled the order and all its terms of the contract, 70 forums were agreed and I did 101, but the fact that the topics are being moderated there is not my problem in fact, my task is to register, accounts, put avatars where possible, create topics with your ads and send you a report. Everything has been done dear, why create arbitration, I don’t understand, it’s just that you’re just another freeloader who wants to get advertising on the ball, there’s no goosebumps. I did everything, there is a report on the work done where everything can be seen where what and how. You just did a childish, not deliberate stupidity, you run into it, return the money to him, you are kidding dude, why should I return something to you ??? You owe me another $20. I did everything, I wish you good luck! The moderator will come soon and I hope he will sort out your unreasonable lies.

 

[hKebab]

When you gave me report it was 54 links, some part of them was with "not found, pre-moderated, banned" status,
i ask moneyback and agreed to pay to you for your work what you done for that moment
Without problems, because you send me report and i checked it.
And i see for that time, you did only 54. But ask me to pay you the rest, $250
If you continue registrations after my moneyback request, this is not my problem.

 

[Traffpost]

There are deadlines that were agreed in advance before ordering, here is the screen below, I wrote that I would do everything within 10 days, I wanted to do everything quickly, but you made some hasty conclusions, yes, I threw off the first report, and decided to correct the miscalculations and did replacement for you, in the end you have 101 forums, I know that I'm right, there is all the evidence.

 

[hKebab]

0. All was fine, i am drinking my coffee
1. After 2 days you started your work... you write to me and tell me that work is done and ask me the second part of payment (but we agreed, that after 2 weeks of work i'll pay you this part)
2. I was confused by this situation, because it's looks like a scam and ask you to send me report
3. You send me 54 links, not 101, not 70. 54 (and yes, one of it was just link to the profile, idk i must pay for this... or not...)
4. I tell you we have the problems and i want moneyback, but you can take partial money for you work
5. You reject this
6. I decide to create arbitrage.
That's it.

 

[Traffpost]

Stupidly this is all on your part, I did everything for you in fact.

And there is no fraud on my part, but I completed the order more than expected, and the more you received and receive profit, this registration on your forum is correct, and here I write, I communicate with you, and I don’t disappear or get lost at all. Does this look like a scam?

On my part, everything is fair, I fulfilled all the conditions for the order, more than it should be!

You are not an understandable person at all, confusing this forum with shit, although you yourself are sitting here and communicating, you created arbitration for me from a new profile, you are clearly a scammer who is counting on a freebie, sorry here you will not find a freebie. There are serious people here, whose society must be respected and not compared with shit.

 

[admin]

Формально исполнителем нигде не были обещаны результаты работы - отклики, регистрации, уники и т.д. Ситуация ближе к негативному отзыву, чем к кидку, т.е. hKebab, вы можете оставить отзыв в теме сервиса. В претензии отказываю.

Спойлер: Оффтоп

"Раскрутить" хакерский форум невозможно. Это редкая узкоспециализированная деятельность. Это же не форум об автомобилях и не канал в телеграме с шутками. Требуются годы (скорее, даже десятки лет) работы в пустоту. Да и такие проекты редко бывают коммерческими. Пусть вас не вводит в заблуждение опыт breached, он случайно выстрелил за счет raidforums и имел только частичное отношение к хакерству. Но, в целом, я рад, что наше движение живет и появляются новые форумы. Наберитесь терпения.

Formally, the performer nowhere promised the results of the work - responses, registrations, uniques, etc. The situation is closer to a negative review than to ripp, i.e. hKebab, you can leave feedback in the service thread. I refuse this claim.

Спойлер: Offtop

It is impossible to "promote" a hacker forum. This is a rare highly specialized activity. This is not a forum about cars and not a telegram channel with jokes. It takes years (rather, even decades) of work into the void. And such projects are rarely commercial. Don't be fooled by the experience of breached, it was accidentally fired at the expense of raidforums and had only a partial connection to hacking. But, in general, I am glad that our movement lives and new forums appear. Just be patient.