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Strategies for approaching problems may em-
phasize various combinations of vision, action, logic
or emotion & particular emphasis on one of these
cognitive strategies can produce a general think-
ing style at the level of a group or culture. Vision,
action, logic and emotion are more general expres-
sions of the elements ofa particularcognitive strat-
egy: ie, visualization, movement, verbalization
and feeling. Thinking style is akin to the NLP
notion of "primary" or "most valued" representa-
tional system.

Sununary of Key Meta Program Patterns

1. Approach To Problems
a. Towards the Positive
b. Away From the Negative

2. Time Frame
a. Short Term-Long Term
b. Past-Present-Future

3. Chunk Size
a. Large Chunks-Generslities
b. Small Chunks-Details

4. Locus of Control
a. Internal or ‘Self Reference-Proactive
b. External or ‘Other’ Reference-Reactive

5. Mode of Comparison
a. Match (Simmlanties)-Consensus
b. Mismatch (Dijfferewes)-Confrontation

6. Approach to Problem Solving

a. Task (Achievernent)
1) Choices—-Goals
2) Procedures—Opera tions

b, Relationship (Power; Affiliation )
1) Self-Wy, 1, Me
2) Other-You, His, Their
3) Context-We TheCompany, The Market

7. Thinking Style
a. Vision
b. Action
c. Logic
d. Emotion

A person's Hierarchy of Criteria and Logical
Level of focus can also be considered as Meta Pro-
gram features. A Hierarchy of Criteria is essen-
tially the order of priorities that a person applies
to an outcome or problem. Hierarchies of criteria
relate to the degree of importance or meaning which
people attach to various actions and experiences.
Criteria are essentially values that provide the
motives for action; such as: achievement, power,
survival, efficiency, consensus, profit, growth, pro-
ductivity, affiliation, quality, ecology, etc. Criteria
suchas thesecan determineand reveals lot about
other Meta Program patterns. A person who has
“achievement" at the top of his or her Hierarchy of
Criteria, for instance, is much more likely to be
task oriented than a person who most highly val-
ues “affiliation.” Likewise, a person who focuses
on" power” is more likely to be proactive and inter.
nally referenced than a person who emphasizes
“consensus”; and so on.

Logical Level of focus relates to where a person or
group typically tends to place their attention while
problem solving orplanning a path toa desired state.
Emphasis may be placed on either: environment—
Whee, Wher; behaviors —What;ea pa bilities —H ow;
beliefs and values—Why, identity—Who, or the
system—Who else and ForWhom,

The Logical Level of focus determines the scope
of activity to which other Meta Program patterns
apply. Avoiding something in the environment, is
different than attempting to avoid being some
thing at the identity level. Mismatching behav-
iors is different than mismatching beliefs and
values; and so on. It is also possible to avoid,
mismatch or have an internal reference at one
level, but to approach, match or have an external
reference at another level. Factoring in the Logi-
cal Levels of focus often helps to sort out seeming
discrepancies or paradoxes related to identifying
the basic Meta Program patterns (one can be "ap-
proaching" something at one level, and "avoiding"
something at another level, for instance).

Meta Program Clusters and Group Process

Different problem solving styles and approaches
are characterized by different clusters and se
quences of Meta Program patterns in various ra-
tios. One person's approach might involve an 80%
focus on relationship and 20% focus on task, and
70% emphasis on long-term versus 30% short-term
considerations. Someone else may emphasize the
taskas 90% of the focus and think mostly in terms
of short-term consequences.
Thinking Style Dreamer
Level of Feces What
Representational Vision
reference
Approach Toward
Time Frame Long-Term
Time Orientation Fue
Reference Internal - Self
Mode of Comparison Match



Realist Critic
Way
Action. Logic
Toward Away
Short-Term. Long!Short-Term
Present PasttPurwe
External - Environment External - Others
Match Mismatch

Different Clusters of Meta Program Patterns Combine to Form Different Thinking Styles

Thedifferent clusters of Meta Program patterns
clearly cover different areas of a problem space. In
this respect, there are no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ Meta
Programs. Rather, their effectiveness in connec
tion with problem solving relates to the ability to
apply them to cover the space necessary to ad-
equately deal with a problem or reach a goal. The
different phases of the Disney Imagineering Strat-
ecy (Dreamer, Realist and Critic), for example,
may be characterized by particular dusters of Meta
Program patterns.

Different kinds of activities require different
sorts of attitudes and approaches. Some activities
require or emphasize the ability to focus on the
micro chunks and details. Others require the abil-
ity to see the big picture. Different phases in the
planning or problem solving cycle of a group or
team may call upon different thinking styles.
Therefore, particular attitudes or clusters of Meta
Program patterns might be more or less beneficial
at different stages ina group's process. Anempha-
sis on results more than procedures might either
bea help ora constraint toa group's functioning at
different times. Some phases might require achiev-
ing consensus, and during other phases, it is im-
portant to encourage differences in perspectives.

Different thinking styles and approaches will
have different values for different types of tasks.
In brainstorming, for example, it may be benefi-
cial to direct thinking in terms of the hig picture
anda longer time frame. For developing plans and
procedures it may be more useful to be focused on
short-term actions. For analytical tasks it may be
more appropriate to logically consider details with
respect to the task, etc.

In this view, managing the process of a group
essentially involves the pacing and leading of the
different Meta Program patterns of the group
members to fill in ‘missing links’ and widen the
perception of the problem or solution space.

Cudtural Differences, Meta Programs and Think-
ang Styles

Froman NLP perspective, many cultural differ-
ences may be described or expressed in terms of
clusters of Meta Program patterns and thinking
styles. Forexample, different cultures tend to value
different representational systems. NativeAmeri-
can culture tends to emphasize kinesthetic and
auditory experience, whereas the European inmuni-
grants who settled North America came from a
culture that primarily emphasized the visual rep-
resentational system. One reflection of this is the
preponderance of visually oriented words in the
English language. Another indication can be found
in the differences in the religious experiences of
the two cultures. Spiritual experiences often arise
from an altered state of consciousness, which is
usually characterized by the least conscious repre-
sentational system. A Westerners religious expe
rience is usually one of "feeling the spirit’ or
“hearing an inner voice." The expectation of tradi-
tional Native Americans is to have a "vision" or
“see the spirit guides." This implies that vision is
not usually the normal experience of the Native
Americans, and that feeling and hearing are less
part of the typical Caucasian way of organizing
the world.

Such core representational system differences
influence other cultural patterns. Consider some
of the key differences between the Navajo and
Western way of thinking. At a Pan-American con-
ference on education, the Navajo participants kept
complaining, "This conference is not getting any-
where. The Caucasians are always under so much
pressure toget things done that nobody ever really
gets the opportunity to tell his or her whole story.
How can we respond to an issue if we haven't
heard all of the necessary voices”

The Westerners, on theother hand, kept saying,
"Look, we're having a meeting here, and we need
touseour time efficiently. There are certain agen-
das that we have, and we need to focus so that we
can move through those issues as quickly as pos-
sible." They continually griped, "Having a meeting
with the Navajo is like hell because it could take
all night long. And it just goes on and on and on.
We don't see the purpose. Nothing ever gets ac
complished.”

From the NLP point of view, the conflict be
tween the two groups arose from cultural differ.
ences and values relating toMeta Program pattems
regarding representational system preferences,
time, task and relationship. The Westerners fo-
cused more on "task! and efficiency, while the Na-
vajo placed more value on "relationship" and
multiple perspectives. The Navajo would say, "It’s
really important to hear the whole story. Every-
kody should have the opportunity to tell his orher
story: Anything worth talking akout at all, ofcourse,
is worth having a meal over." For the Navajo, punc-
tuality was not important. What was important
was that people had the time they needed to com-
pletely address the issues. For the Westerners,
accomplishing the stated agenda in the timeframe
allotted was the highest priority.

With a few Meta Program patterns, it is pos-
sible to sense the essence of a culture, without
having to learn the language or live in the culture
for an extended period of time.

identifying Meta P rogram? attems

Meta Programs may be identified through lin-
guistic cues in the form of key words and phrases.
As an example, consider the following: while at-
tending a class on a particular subject, a student
complains, "I don't feel like putting so much effort
into learning this material because it will be okso-

Jete soon and I don't want to waste my time.” Such
a comment reveals a great deal about the learner's
operating Meta Program patterns. The student's
statement indicates that he or she is oriented to-
ward "feelings," for instance, and is focused on
avoiding perceived negatives (i.e.,"somuch effort"
and "wasting time"). The use of the word "I" also
indicates a strong self-reference ("I don't feel," "I
don't want"). The student's comment also implies
anemphasis on the short term future ("it will be
oksolete soon") and generalities (the student re-
fers to"this material" rather than referring to any
particular aspect of the material).

Meta Program patterns may be stimulated
through questions and cognitive instructions. Meta
Program patterns are often determined as a result
ofself-essessment, using multiple choice questions
which draw out a person's preferences in relation-
ship to a particular context or situation. The fol-
lowing is an exampleof a questionnaire, developed
by Robert Dilts, involving a self evaluation of one's
Meta Program patterns in relationship to inter
personal comnunication.

Example Meta Program Conumunication
Questionnaire

in the groups of statenents below, put «
check by the ones that characterizethe way
youtypically communicatewith others (this
will not necessaniy be the way you think
you ‘should communicated. If more than
one statement fits equaiiy put a check by
the others as weil.

Note If you have diffiadty answering the
questions “in general,” you may want to
think of a partiadar individual or type of
individual as you consider your answers.

12. When conununicating with others it is most
important to pay attention to:

— their internal feelings and reactions.
— their external behavior.
— the external context we are in.
— my internal state and goals.
(Locus of Control)

18. What is most important in effective conunu-
nication?
— Being consistent with who you really are.
— Your values and beliefs.
— Your thinking process.
— Your actions and behavior.
— Your physical environment.
(Level of Focus)

14. It is difficult for me to communicate with
others when I don't understand:

— who they really are.
— what they value and believe.
— how they think.
— what they are doing.
—the physical setting we are in.
(Level of Focus)

15. Rank, from 1-5, the areas you consider most
important toemphasize when communicating
with others:

— achievement

— efficiency

—omsensus

__ profit

—eBrowth

__ productivity

— affiliation

— quality

— ecology

— Other:
(Hierarchy of Criteria)

16. In the oormmnunication contexts listed below
puta'+' by theones that are theeasiest for you
and a '-' by the ones that are most difficult:

— presentations.
— interviews.
—Nnegotiations.
— delegation.

— persuasion.
— discussions.

Exercise: Mapping Across Meta Program
Patterns

One of the values of being able to elicit Meta
Programs is that you can better perceive their
influence on a particular conununication or inter.
action. As with other cognitive capa hilities, people
will sometimes prefer certain Meta Program pat-
terns toothers. And, as with other patterns, this
can be @ source of both strengths and problems.

Sometimes Meta Programs are treated as if they
were a type of NLP "personality theory." The fact
is, however, that they are distinctions relating to
patterns and trends in cognitive strategies, and
are not rigid and unchangeable features of iden-
tity. Clusters of Meta Program patterns can be a
powerful means for understanding and describing
individual and cultural differences in a non-judg-
mental way. They are also useful tools for building
models of individual thinking styles or cultures.
The purpose of Meta Program patterns is to de
scribea general trend ina particularcontext. These
patterns, however, are always flexible and evolv-
ing.

Meta program patterns are often contextually
based, and can shift, depending on the situation.
Like other NLP distinctions, Meta Program pat-
terns can be transferred, or "mapped across,” from
one situation to another in order to create change
or improvement. The following exercise involves
the use of a simple Contrastive Analysis to iden-
tify and utilize Meta Program patterns elicited
from a resourceful state or situation in order to
address a challenging situation.

1 Identify a situation involving decision making,
problem solving or motivation, that you find
personally difficult to manage effectively. Iden-
tify another challenging situation, that is simi-
lar tothe first one, but that you have been able
to manage resourcefully.

2. Create two physical locations for the different
situations, and a third location for a "meta
position.”

3. One ata time, associate into the challenging
and resourceful situations, in order to get a
good sense of how you experience them differ.
ently inside of you.

4. From meta position, contrast the Meta Pro-
gram patterns that are operating in each of the
situations. (You may refer to the questions in
the Communication Questionnaireas a guide.)
How are the Meta Program patterns you are
using in the resourceful situation different from
those of the challenging situation?

5. Step into the resource situation location and
focus on the most important Meta Program
patterns that you are using in that experience.
Create an anchor so that you can easily feel
and remember what it is like to beacting from
those Meta Program characteristics.

Meta Position



derermadlyRefer enced

Resoweetul
Situatioa or State

Problem
Situation or State
Meta Progrem Patterns





Towards Fuser ePositive Arvid Present Negatives
Long-Term Short Zev

Lar geand SuadiChumks Focused on Detaits
derernadlyRefer enced BoernattyRefer enced
Matching endMismatching Mesmatching

Vesion and Logic Oviented Logicand Bmtion Oriented
Meta Program Patterns Can Be Transferred
from One Situation to Another in Order to
Help Create Balance

6. Step over into the challenging situation and
use your anchor to transfer the Meta Program
patterns associated with the resourceful expe
rience into that situation. Notice how your
experience of the challenging situation is
changed and enriched.

Exercise: Inner Circle-Outer Circle

Managing Different Meta Programs and
Thinking Styles

One of the challenges of working with Meta
Programs is addressing a group in which the indi-
viduals have very different thinking styles. People
are often more at ease with one style than others.
It is important for leaders, presenters and teach-
ers to develop the flexihility to switch between a
number of different thinking styles in order to be
ableto understand and direct the process of group
members. The fundamental principles for effec
tively directing the activity of a group toward a
conunon goal are'pacing and leading’ and ‘acknowl-
edging and adding’ with respect to Meta Program
patterns.

It is important to remember that particular
thinking styles arenotsomuch a personality type
as they are an expression of the tendency of an
individual toenact or express a certain attitude or
Meta Program pattern ina particular context. This
tendency is often drawn out by dynamic influences
coming from other group members and the leader
herself or himself. In a dynamic interaction, issues
such as the starting state of the group, and the
natural or ciosen thinking style of the group leader,
influence the subsequent patterns of interaction
(eg., it is not desirable to have either too many
dreamers or critics in a group).

TheI nner Circle—Outer Circle exercise is a “fish
bowl" style exercise that allows people to learn
about and practice recognizing managing differ.
ent Meta Program patterns and thinking styles.
The steps of the exercise include:

1. The purpose of effective communication is pri-
marily to:
— avoid conflicts of relationships.
— develop a good and long-lasting relation-
ship.
— avoid mistakes in getting to objectives.
— achieve positive objectives.
(Approach to Problems)
 
что ты курил Димму? ))

Шучу, но, возможно, мог бы прояснить это, что это такое?
ty shutit ochen zabavvniya =) hahaha
The other day guys were discussing SI and some of the more nuanced aspects of it so I offered to post some of the NLP stuff which is along the same lines
Happy new year
 
Прошу прощения, но NLP научно существует одно и лишь одно - Natural-language Programming,
Нейро-лингвистическоe Программирование (Neuro-linguistic Programming) к науке не относится и ею не является и не будет являться наукой никогда. Это псевдонаука, где сказка вымысла имеет некоторую научную основу, (эриксоновский гипноз к примеру) но искажена не в целях терапевтического эффекта, а потому что все открытия этого - ложны.
Мозг не программируется словами, это научно доказанный факт и уже давно. Если мы говорим о Гриндере, Бендлере и их ошеломительном нео-научном проекте, который закончился ссорой и склоками с последующим легендированием преследования одного из них ЦРУ, Гриндер якобы был агентом ЦРУ в Германии, это не является правдой, он действительно был младшим научным сотрудником изучавшим метод "генеративно-трансформационной грамматики", более успешного жулика и пиздабола от альтернативной науки Ноэма Хомского (но очень талантливого жулика и пиздабола). Гриндер был младшим ассистентом профессора лингвистики Грегори Бейтсона в Кресж Колледж. На это ЦРУ давало деньги, только Гриндер не был ни агентом, ни кем-то в ЦРУ. После придумали историю про мертвую шлюху в отеле и наркотики, мол, НЛП преследовали. В девяностых годах его спросили, вы были агентом ЦРУ в качестве кого? Вы офицер, клерк, участник General Schedule Qualification Standards, или член научной группы? Он даже не знал что это такое, сотовые телефоны были не у каждого, некоторые бегали с пейджерами, не загуглить. ))
Было такое время, Перлз, Эриксон. Собственно легенда о том, как обнаружено НЛП свидетельство выдумки, они тупо врут, что случайно обнаружили системность в глазодвигательных реакциях нормально организованного мозга правши, связями с сенсорными каналами получения информации, органами чувств и их программированием словами. После, то ли первый, то ли второй начали пиздеть и противоречить фундаментальной легенде открытия своего "науки магического воздействия" )) Были времена когда они маркетологически называли свое учение "новой магией", секты псевдо-около-психологов еще не было сформировано. В НЛП Гриндера-Бендлера нет науки, если под наукой не подразумевать цыганский метод прибалтывания. Там есть немного оперативной психологии, есть немного коммуникативной теории, здравого смысла, совсем малость научного подспорья - эриксоновского гипноза, а двигательные реакции.... Блядь, ну это хуета полная, которую не имеет смысла опровергать с точки зрения этих движений, неоднократно когнитивно, эмпирически и лабораторно доказано - мозг не программируется словами, иначе бы это автоматически было доказано, открыли бы такое программирование, чудо воздействия, с невероятно возрастающим объемом информации, кто-то бы уже так запрограммировал человечество конкретно и безвозвратно, что мы бы все вынуждены были исполнять волю этого магистра управления словом.
Тем не менее, люди не компьютеры, и все значительно сложнее. Манипулировать реактивно значительно проще, нежели управлять. ))
Дальше не стал пока что читать, возможно в этом есть здравый смысл, но оно сильно умно и запутано.
С нами твои шуточки не прокатят ))
....
A person's Hierarchy of Criteria and Logical
Level of focus can also be considered as Meta Program features.
Вчитался. Это очередная инкарнация секты последователей учения Гриндера-Бендлера, на этот раз они взяли всего понемногу от науки и закрутили это в какую то избыточно заумную трансцендентность абсолюта.
Так называемая "NLP's Metaprogram" состоит как раз из Natural language processing, бихевиористики и психологии. Из этого создали какие то курсы NLP Sure и NLP Mind. Честно говоря, я так и не понял, к чему эта бессвязная хуетень здесь? Это очередной курс цыганского прибалтывания, который имеет логику, только логика эта из психологии поведения в социуме, влияния и логики для ai-технологий, основа для привития в подходе анализа данных.
Именно поэтому этот поток бредонесения так тяжел для понимания. )) Я бегло начал читать и перестал понимать из чего и с чем они связывают одно NLP с другим. ))
Если ты на полном серьезе увлекся этой хуетой, то мне даже жаль тебя, было бы полезней и тебе и социуму, если бы ты нашел себя в религии. ))
 
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Friend, I'm afraid there's been some confusion in interpreting the content as some sort of an endorsement of the topic. It was also not my intention for this to be considered an objective document, as we can agree all but most of it comprised of hearsay, or intuitive conjecture. Be that as it may, this was more of an extension to the previous conversation where one of the participants indicated it would be useful, therefore obliged.
 
Friend, I'm afraid there's been some confusion in interpreting the content as some sort of an endorsement of the topic. It was also not my intention for this to be considered an objective document, as we can agree all but most of it comprised of hearsay, or intuitive conjecture. Be that as it may, this was more of an extension to the previous conversation where one of the participants indicated it would be useful, therefore obliged.
Эти постулаты взяты не только из Natural-language программирования/процессинга.
Выдерто это из пяти-шести фундаментальных трудов и доказанных постулатов, которые стали моделями глобусов в географии многих наук.
В них покопались и психологи и педагоги и коучеры, но "метапрограммирование" в одном абзаце суть цитирования обобщений кого-то из нью-йоркского или какое там центровое в штатах, представительства секты НЛП, они теперь косят под науку по новому. Да, Гриндер и Бендлер кусают локти, многое из этого, уже было выдвинуто в теорию и взято за основу еще в 50-70ые годы. То есть, не знаю откуда вы это взяли, но есть фразы которые выдраны из работы таких чертополохов, потому я и предположил что вы под влиянием этих пиздунов.
Метапрограммирование в написании кода таки существует, и может значить разные вещи, подход и принцип и зависит от самого языка.
Строго говоря, в психологии нет такого термина, он стал ссылочным благодаря авангардистам шестидесятых, которые торчали и сочиняли, сочиняли и торчали. LSD и не только. Такое было время. Джон Лилли в 1968 году выпустил невероятный бестселлер "Программирование и метапрограммирование человеческого биокомпьютера: теория и эксперименты". Если его произведение можно назвать научной публицистикой, он научно корректно выдвигает гипотезы, обосновывает, это вполне научно, хотя многие поспорят. Во всяком случае здраво и ничего странного в то время в этом не было. Кибернетика так и начиналась, в Bell Labs Джон фон Нейман и Алан Тьюринг годами двигали идеи, над которыми нынче посмеются. Например какой объем в байтах хранилища информации в мозге человека, к 1965 году они даже посчитали что в некой кодировке старой в двоичном байтовом формате это составит несколько гигабайт, по тем временам это было размером вселенной работы компьютеров, их вычислений. Пока не курнув косяка Алана и команду не доперло, или кто-то предположил, а как быть с визуальным рядом, зрением? Память кодируется, картинки, почему мы этого не учли, и поиски истины прекратились, т.к. не представлялось возможным избрать меру счисления таких абстракций. Так что это нормально. Было на то время. Не нормально, когда из этого создают какое то нездоровое и вредное учение, которым пудрят суггестивным и ищущим людям мозги. Например о метапрограммирование есть курсы у адептов Гриндера-Бендлера, есть масса книг авторов вроде Роберта Антона Уилсона, который считает своими духовными отцами Тимоти Лири и Алистера Кроули. Пишет он неплохо, он мыслитель и дело свое знает. Я просто не понимаю его цели. Я понимаю Кастанеду, который имел свои ограничения и кроме как через сказку про Дона Хуана и тайное учение индейцев древности не мог выразить то, к чему пришел, это вполне нормальный "метатекст". Но есть разница и ее нужно улавливать в таких рецитированиях.
Критическое мышление не значит что ты поносишь всех и вся и готов обосрать чьи-то священные устои и ты просто критикан сомневающийся во всем. Это признак не критического мышления а человека ментально нездорового. Но без этого увы не достичь ни настоящего понимания ни тем более не иметь шансов иметь собственное мнение, потому что вас хватит на цитирование набора слов других. Я не вас конкретно имею в виду, я говорю вообщем о житейском. Почему важно отличать одно от другого в разнице смыслов.
 
ty shutit ochen zabavvniya =) hahaha
The other day guys were discussing SI and some of the more nuanced aspects of it so I offered to post some of the NLP stuff which is along the same lines
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no ya shunik )) haha okay now I understand, it was seeming like a type of word-salat! happy new year to you also my friend
 
good read, but i agree that NLP itself was a theory that turned out to be false. I used to be very much interested in it and even read a few books on it thinking it would help with social engineering. i ended up realizing that some of the techniques were basic common sense on speaking but the majority of it that teaches how to basically manipulate by "speaking to someone's subconscious to swap them into your position/goal" were totally wrong. the whole idea of "neuro-linguistic progrkgramming" is that your tone, voice, volume, the spaces in your words, etc could essentially speak to someone's inner subconscious and sway their conscious thoughts. while those things do matter and can make a great speaker, they will not change someone else's opinion, thoughts or even talk to their subconscious mind.
 
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meta programs were different from that a bit. they were focused on personality subtypes which would be profiled from a less specific generalization to the more granular niche "metaprogram" by "analyzing" key phrase indicators and speech tendencies. not that this particular variation was prolific in contrast, or even any degree of proficient beyond that =)

since it's likely they maintain steadfast aversion to objective performance details i doubt there's much to compare its effectiveness against other approaches. save to say it is probably the same rate their sentence phrasing manipulation and grammatical syncopation hocus pocus (like you mentioned above) achieves good results haha
 
meta programs were different from that a bit. they were focused on personality subtypes which would be profiled from a less specific generalization to the more granular niche "metaprogram" by "analyzing" key phrase indicators and speech tendencies.
Какие еще "мета программы" и какие "субтипы"? О чем именно речь? Где об этом можно ознакомится и какое отношение это имеет к теме?
Это глубокомысленная чушь с признаками индукции.
Нейролингвисты не занимаются метапрограммами, хотя под этой наукой много очень ненаучных вещей, околонаучных работ, до которых особенно нет никому дела, поэтому это существует. Я к нейролингвистике не отношусь, но с достаточно знаком что где и чего нового, т.к. интересуюсь смежной, практически соседней тематикой с этим.
Подобная экосистема развивается и в области социальной психологии, значительная часть всего, что сокрыто под этим сводом науки и подтасовано под нее, к науке имеет далекое отношение, даже в качестве размышлений в форме вольного повествования. Примерно как творения писателей-фантастов относятся к самой науке и технологиям будущего.
grammatical syncopation hocus pocus
Я не рекомендую употреблять радикально-специфические такие термины. Например, под синкопацией (syncopation) могут иметь в виду очень разное. Языки разные, если мы говорим о правилах правописания, это одно, а если о грамматических признаках частей речи, так вы вероятно и не знаете сколько таковых в русском языке. )) В грамматике есть три градуса, "gradus", степени сравнения: положительная, сравнительная/относительная и превосходная и две формы: регулярная и нерегулярная. И еще много чего, что людям попросту не нужно знать.
Если мы имеем в виду анализ, это уже не грамматика, а морфологическая и синтаксическая составляющая.
Зачем так усложнять, если можно написать просто? ))
Наконец, вы сами практически с этим работаете, интересуетесь освоить, или просто интересуетесь научной публицистикой? Если практически интересуетесь, то и пишите о практичном и проще. Здесь все люди разные и читали разные книги на разных языках, но не всегда это помогает пониманию. ))
 
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Not sure why you would request references to a theme you vehemently detest, but nevertheless: at your behest ... don't hold me responsible for somebody else's thoughts, though =)) Was only mentioning the difference from this https://www.newthinktank.com/2010/04/indirect-hypnosis-nlp-meta-programs/ that vei was talking about


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