DeepSeek’s privacy policy. The CCP won't remove my thread, right?

[shrekushka]

We tried out DeepSeek. It worked well, until we asked it about Tiananmen Square and Taiwan

The AI app soared up the Apple charts and rocked US stocks, but the Chinese chatbot was reluctant to discuss sensitive questions about China and its government

www.theguardian.com

1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre - Wikipedia

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Great Leap Forward - Wikipedia

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Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia

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2019–2020 Hong Kong protests - Wikipedia

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https://chat.deepseek.com/downloads/DeepSeek%20Privacy%20Policy.html

Data Controller: The Service is provided and controlled by Hangzhou DeepSeek Artificial Intelligence Co., Ltd., and Beijing DeepSeek Artificial Intelligence Co., Ltd., with their registered addresses in China (“we”or “us”).

We store the information we collect in secure servers located in the People’s Republic of China.

We review User Input, Output, and other information to protect the safety and well-being of our community.

…good faith belief…necessary to comply with applicable law.

Protect the rights, property, and safety…comply with applicable law…prevent illegal activity…

Under Article 7, all organizations and citizens in China are obligated to assist in intelligence-gathering efforts if requested by state authorities.
Your data is essentially at the mercy of the CCP if Beijing so desires. Your data isn’t just stored, it’s sitting within arm’s reach of Beijing’s intelligence agencies. In China, “applicable law” always bends to the CCP’s will.

National Intelligence Law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia

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Cybersecurity Law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia

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Data Security Law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia

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Personal Information Protection Law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia

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Information they collect:
Profile information: birth date, username, email, and phone number. (Fairly standard so far...)
User input: Everything you type, speak, upload, or chat about with their models.
Technical info: IP address, device identifiers, keystroke patterns, system language, etc.
Usage Information: Features you use, actions you take, and crash logs. (Standard)
Payment Information: (Standard)
With no possible way to request a delete.
Explicitly mention cookies, web beacons, and “hashed email addresses” from advertisers, likely for ad tracking across multiple platforms.
Data sharing:
1. Service providers
2. Advertising partners
3. Corporate transactions: If DeepSeek merges or sells assets, your data goes along for the ride.

 

[dunkel]

and what? you can just ask him in language other than english

 

[shrekushka]

and what? you can just ask him in language other than english
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These sort of bypasses won't be patched anytime in the near future. And I think the CCP's in a weird spot trying to figure out how control of the information landscape with the rise of LLMs gonna look like. And it would be interesting to see all sorts of insane stories, laws pushed whatnot in the years to come.

 

[shrekushka]

and what? you can just ask him in language other than english
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A Chinese national would've been at risk with this sort of behavior.

 

[dunkel]

Im sorry, but llm bypass by swap symbols - useless nonsense because you can just google it

 

[shrekushka]

Im sorry, but llm bypass by swap symbols - useless nonsense because you can just google it

I didn't write about LLM bypasses. That one image was from the Guardian. I wanted to write about their privacy policy.
LLM filter workarounds are the least interesting of things, for me.

But also think about this: you are a Chinese national with an in house, private compute cluster powerful enough to run an LLM without extreme imbecility, researching online is extremely more dangerous than using LLMs for research on these combustible topics.

 

[dunkel]

I didn't write about LLM bypasses. That one image was from the Guardian. I wanted to write about their privacy policy.
LLM filter workarounds are the least interesting of things, for me.

But also think about this: you are a Chinese national with an in house, private compute cluster powerful enough to run an LLM without extreme imbecility, researching online is extremely more dangerous than using LLMs for research on these combustible topics.

In china no one gives a fuck about censorship, everyone uses vless vpn, watches youtube, facebook, plays in casino and etc

 

[shrekushka]

In china no one gives a fuck about censorship, everyone uses vless vpn, watches youtube, facebook, plays in casino and etc

I can't share Winnie the Pooh memes though.(