Арбитраж xiputin

[Megaserver]

Прошу администрацию забанить данного товарища(скупа биз бирж)
Линк на персонажа https://wwh-club[.]to/index.php?members/xiputin.475376/

https://xss.pro/members/349189/

Скам 1200. Договаривались на регистрацию связки northone+housecallpro+ honeybook, торговались, утвердили цену,за пару дней зарегистрировал связку, скинул ему в ТГ в личку 08.01.2024 в 18:48, типа как чекнешь отпишет.(
Через пару часов отписал ему проверил?
-Didnt check
На следующий день
-No
Ещё через несколько дней
-I don’t respond because like I told you … I don’t check
Вчера я предупредил его, что если он мне не оплатит акки, я пишу блек на него.далее происходит диалог, где он пытается доказать, что не заказывал у меня ничего, я ему скидываю скрин, где четко видно что он заказывал связку и сам предложил цену 1200, с которой я согласился.
После он начинает петлять, типа вот хотел поэкспериментировать и передумал, типа давай я тебе 200$ компенсирую,у всех свои принципы,
Цените свое время. Пусть засунет себе эти 1200 куда подальше, но у меня просьба к АГ добавить его в блек на всех дружеских форумах. Это Скам, так дела не делаются

 

[Megaserver]

пруфы готов скинуть админу

 

[admin]

xiputin, прошу ответить. Арбитражу практически сутки.

 

[Megaserver]

на всякий случай оповестил ответчика в тг
на него же блек на ввх, и чуть позже на экспе буду блэк кидать

 

[xiputin]

TS is so funny he’s almost a clown. Firstly all my chats have auto delete set by default. This is for my personal safety. Nextly he must have conveniently forgot that what I posted that I needed was crypto business accounts crypto.com LLC, kraken LLC etc. At the time he came to message me I had already purchased a lot of Kraken LLC accounts from several sellers in different market places hence I didn’t need any more of that. I asked him if he had crypto.com LLC before I have less of those and I could still buy more. He said he couldn’t get it approved. That’s all well and good.



Then after a couple days Suddenly he comes to to market this bundle of merchant accounts I didn’t know anything about. Regardless that that I had $1200 I was willing to play with just to see if it was interesting. However he didn’t accept to sell at that price so I asked him to remove a product from the bundle and sell that at $1200. He said he’ll have to make a new one and will take a few days. I did tell him then that I knew nothing about merchants and I was just in the mood to gamble.



in about 1 or 2 days he paste a file to me.. firstly I was confused because I had completely forgotten about our conversation. Then he tells me to check and I didn’t respond to him because I had no intentions to check anything. Few days later he asks again if I’ve checked and I said no. Then I later explain to him that I will not be checking or downloading that file because I have no intentions to use it as I will not be buying.. Then he starts to cry saying oh I made him register blah blah blah..



Im A reasonable guy and I could see see had put some effort and also because I felt like I could need his services in the future to register some accounts I do need.. I offered to pay him $200 for his effort and he can go ahead and sell those accounts to someone else because I don’t need it.



Then he starts to cry that he will put a black on me for scamming him.. The question becomes how exactly have I scammed?



-Did I take any product from him? No

-Did I take his money? No



So where exactly is the scam? Because I changed my mind and don’t want an account… that is scam? If he truly wanted the money then he should have taken the offer on the day I gave it to him when I was willing to pay $1200 for something I didn’t need. No one can force anyone to buy a product.

You created a chat with yourself claiming there are other victims as if that’s supposed to be some kind of credible evidence ….if I have ever scammed anyone why don’t they publicly call me out with proof.

As for your accounts IM NOT INTERESTED.. SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE.. SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!


This has to be one of the funniest arbitration requests I’ve seen in xss

 

[Megaserver]

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[admin]

Арбитраж в очереди на рассмотрение.

 

[xiputin]

For reference this issue has been decided on WWH. Not that it should have anything to do with your decision .. but here is the result

https://wwh-club[.]to/index.php?thr...lzovatelja-xiputin.279250/page-2#post-2498860

 

[Megaserver]

да суть в том чтобы увидеть истинное твое лицо, где ты потом просишь еще что то тебе зарегистрировать, труисты тебе нужны, еще что то тебе нужно, потом чистка сообщений и все по кругу, вот так и надо работать

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нет полной истории, нет проблем, нет слова я заказывал, значит я не заказывал( политика ВВХ), да будет процветать нездоровое движение!

 

[xiputin]

https://ibb.co/jPbDkHmW

The full chat

 

[admin]

Привет. Прошу прощения за задержку, в очереди было много арбитражей. Перечитал скрины и лог. Я считаю, что xiputin должен выплатить 300$. Это будет небольшая компенсация истцу. На разных форумах разная политика, везде свои подходы. Но лично я считаю (субъективное мнение), что кроме формальной стороны вопроса, споры должны решаться еще и по справедливости.

xiputin, прошу выплатить истцу 300$ в течении 24 часов.

 

[Megaserver]

Привет. Прошу прощения за задержку, в очереди было много арбитражей. Перечитал скрины и лог. Я считаю, что xiputin должен выплатить 300$. Это будет небольшая компенсация истцу. На разных форумах разная политика, везде свои подходы. Но лично я считаю (субъективное мнение), что кроме формальной стороны вопроса, споры должны решаться еще и по справедливости.

xiputin, прошу выплатить истцу 300$ в течении 24 часов.

спасибо за справедливость,он в блоке, отдал эту связку новичкам безвозмездно поиграться, сменят почты, пароли, пусть тестят.

 

[xiputin]

Hello. Sorry for the delay, there were many arbitrations in the queue. I reread the screenshots and the log. I think that xiputin should pay $300. This will be a small compensation to the plaintiff. Different forums have different policies, and each has its own approach. But personally, I think (subjective opinion) that in addition to the formal side of the issue, disputes should also be resolved fairly.

xiputin, I ask you to pay the plaintiff $300 within 24 hours.

I’m sorry but I disagree with this decision and I have to appeal it for several reasons;

-You ask me to pay him $300.. the question becomes for what exactly? Does that mean if someone on this forum refuses to do business with me after we discuss potential business then I am entitled to some kind of compensation? Because that is the real issue here “Entitlement”

-The plaintiff has clearly said he has already given the accounts to other parties.. this was before any kind of decision was made here.. so why would I have to pay him when he has already found use for his own accounts

-The facts that he was able to use his accounts also proves that I didn’t touch his account in anyway which proves my sincerity.

-I had already offered the plaintiff $200 out of the kindness of my heart because at the time I was feeling magnanimous… however now my position has changed and I do not wish to give the plaintiff even $1 in regards to this matter.

-In addition and most importantly I have never spoken to the plaintiff on the this forum or tried to do any business with him on this forum before hand… So respectfully this is not this place for any kind of arbitration because in that case the plaintiff will open 100 cases on 100 forums where I use the same username.. he was trying to open one for me on exploit but unfortunately for him I use a different username there. However he was able to open one here because I use the same username here.

Plaintiff and I made contact on WWH which makes this case a wwh jurisdiction case.. my responding here is just a formality and out of respect… however I have no business with him on here.

He should have accepted the $200 when I offered it to him.. He had put me through unnecessary stress and trauma.. he does not deserve a penny

Plaintiff has clearly said he has blocked me.. I have returned the kindness and blocked him too… in the end;

-He has his accounts intact
-He has sold it to other parties (or gifted it like he claims)
-He cannot eat his cake and have it.. the accounts being arbitrated on has been transferred to other parties by plaintiff

Respectfully, This should be the end of the story. Thank you

 

[Megaserver]

I’m sorry but I disagree with this decision and I have to appeal it for several reasons;

-You ask me to pay him $300.. the question becomes for what exactly? Does that mean if someone on this forum refuses to do business with me after we discuss potential business then I am entitled to some kind of compensation? Because that is the real issue here “Entitlement”

-The plaintiff has clearly said he has already given the accounts to other parties.. this was before any kind of decision was made here.. so why would I have to pay him when he has already found use for his own accounts

-The facts that he was able to use his accounts also proves that I didn’t touch his account in anyway which proves my sincerity.

-I had already offered the plaintiff $200 out of the kindness of my heart because at the time I was feeling magnanimous… however now my position has changed and I do not wish to give the plaintiff even $1 in regards to this matter.

-In addition and most importantly I have never spoken to the plaintiff on the this forum or tried to do any business with him on this forum before hand… So respectfully this is not this place for any kind of arbitration because in that case the plaintiff will open 100 cases on 100 forums where I use the same username.. he was trying to open one for me on exploit but unfortunately for him I use a different username there. However he was able to open one here because I use the same username here.

Plaintiff and I made contact on WWH which makes this case a wwh jurisdiction case.. my responding here is just a formality and out of respect… however I have no business with him on here.

He should have accepted the $200 when I offered it to him.. He had put me through unnecessary stress and trauma.. he does not deserve a penny

Plaintiff has clearly said he has blocked me.. I have returned the kindness and blocked him too… in the end;

-He has his accounts intact
-He has sold it to other parties (or gifted it like he claims)
-He cannot eat his cake and have it.. the accounts being arbitrated on has been transferred to other parties by plaintiff

Respectfully, This should be the end of the story. Thank you

а ты хотел заплатить 300 и чтобы аккаунты тебе еще остались? ты вообще вменяемый, чел?

 

[Megaserver]

на эксплойте я еще не писал на тебя арбитраж. но обязательно займусь этим, чтобы люди, которые добросовестно работают не связывались с такими как ты. мне не важно заблокируют тебя, или нет, я показываю твое лицо и твое отношение к людям, С такими людьми нельзя связываться

 

[admin]

He should have accepted the $200 when I offered it to him.. He had put me through unnecessary stress and trauma.. he does not deserve a penny

Арбитраж и спор - это компромисс и поиск решения. Здесь нет места обидам. Именно поэтому мы никогда не принимаем моральный ущерб, сопутствующие расходы, косвенные потери и т.д.

-You ask me to pay him $300.. the question becomes for what exactly?

Странный вопрос. Истец Megaserver может задать аналогичный вопрос, почему 300, а не 1200? В соседнем арбитраже сервис мог сказать "почему я должен делать скидку". Но, если есть взаимные трения (а они точно есть), люди, настроенные работать, стараются найти общие точки соприкосновения. Например, истец вообще настроен вас только забанить, ему не интересны выплаты и деньги, я считаю это тоже плохой позицией и плохим сценарием.

 

[xiputin]

and you wanted to pay 300 and still have the accounts? are you even sane, dude?

No i did not expect to pay $300 for the accounts.. the same way you should wake up from your delusion and not expect me to go give you a free $300.. I am not Santa Klaus.

Like I said in in my earlier previous post… This is a WWH matter and the issue has been decided there. There’s no need to continue hopping around different forums on the same issue that has no relation to those forums

 

[Megaserver]

Арбитраж и спор - это компромисс и поиск решения. Здесь нет места обидам. Именно поэтому мы никогда не принимаем моральный ущерб, сопутствующие расходы, косвенные потери и т.д.

Странный вопрос. Истец Megaserver может задать аналогичный вопрос, почему 300, а не 1200? В соседнем арбитраже сервис мог сказать "почему я должен делать скидку". Но, если есть взаимные трения (а они точно есть), люди, настроенные работать, стараются найти общие точки соприкосновения. Например, истец вообще настроен вас только забанить, ему не интересны выплаты и деньги, я считаю это тоже плохой позицией и плохим сценарием.

Админ, вы знаете что делать, как вы и сказали, я настроен его забанить, мне в тг отписали, что такое не первый раз у данного персонажа. Мороз + автоудаление = профит

а ты хотел заплатить 300 и чтобы аккаунты тебе еще остались? ты вообще вменяемый, чел?

за любой скам, касательный меня, я спокойно могу проинформировать пользователей всех форумов, в интересах самих пользователей, чтобы больше никто на это не повелся.

фактически скорее всего это обычный перекуп, которому не удалось перепродать связку, и он решил так сорваться с заказа, ну если так народ двигаться начнет, ничего путного не выйдет, типа можно заказать проект, даже под гарант, как будет готов, внесу кэш в гарант, чел трудится, сидит возится несколько дней, и я скажу "я передумал"это здраво будет? однозначно нет. либо оплачивать, либо идти на компромисы, либо улетать в бан, иного не дано

но так себя вести, а потом еще писать в личку чтоб я труист банки на него регал....это клиника, как по мне

 

[admin]

Я не вижу оснований для выставления статуса, по сути xiputin не совершал каких-то телодвижений, за которые он обязан платить. Ведь и товар дальше был продан (перепродан). Однако, ответчик сам обещал 200$ в качестве компенсации истцу, в арбитраже от этого он уже отказался. xiputin - забанен за игнорирование решений арбитража. Закрыто.