Блек iocyex - 10k

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amount - 10k + (this is old case but i just got time now to post about this)

Case -

iocyex was introduced to a person i knew for bank cashout, now when time to pay me my share which is more than 10k, they decided to label me as scammer.
I was working with iocyex and he shared me some vcc codes for me to sell to my customers ahead, i got ripped for some codes and promised to pay him back and we agreed in good faith. It was approx 300$ out of which i paid him most of it and maybe 100$ or something like that was left.. btw i had sold and paid perfectly for thousands of dollars by now so this shitty 100$ is just a intentional deviation from my larger share.
Yes i paid this dirt in the name of chinese person even after he deleted me, that is what code of conduct is you insect.
Very conviniently he labels me as scammer, why would i scam for 100$ when i am going to make 10k + with the same team? Is this even sensible? But it is very convenient to cut someone out in order to enjoy a larger share.This is just pure cheating at its best.
I ask @glolimited(third partner) for my share, he says iocyex will decide and when i ask iocyex he said @glolimited will decide. This is pure case of cheating.
(payment sent to iocyex) Its ok, i am not dying because of this money but rats need to be moved out of here
the third parter is trying to look innocent and good person here because he knows i have his details, his drop addresses a lot of shit on him. I just did not have enough time back then i had to make money asap so i avoided getting distracted.

Meanwhile to iocyex i had supplied thousands of Tax forms for him to try to do his reseach, he also confirmed one of them worked for 230k, i still did not even ask for any money for it here are some screenshots of him confirming he got inspired coz of the shit i sent him
Out of a good partnership comradery i did not even ask for any money for the forums which took my time and skills to share to him and he started to take me for granted there after.

i dont think iocyex would give me the money back because if he did see even 1% like a sensible man he would understand there is big difference is owing 100$ and owing someone 10000$.
This last screenshot is from a mutual collegue between iocyex and myself

Just ban this guy from here guys
 
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Your logic is confusing.
First, you cheated me of my money first, and up to now, you have not paid off the money in full.
Second, before you cheated me of my money, the 10k return you mentioned did not come true. So at that time, I didn't know whether the 10k could really be returned. I only knew that you cheated my money. And, you told me smugly in front of me how stupid I was to trust you.
Third, it was not my decision whether to give you the 10k. You also mentioned that he was controlled by a third party. I just told him that you cheated my money, and if possible, the fraudster should be punished.
You cheated me out of my money, and I'll destroy everything you have. I don't care what your reasons are.I think that's fair.
 
1st, i even paid u after u blocked me, so go threaten someone else, that's something called code you wouldnt know. What I was owed was for the loan + the top up done via the cc both + further plans to drop more funds into it.
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I also have full group chat where we agreed on 33% each.
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want everyone to be good and not cheat when u are the first to cheat, haha.

also this bs of the guy not paying you is total crap, we have made money together before and that is why i got him on board but the moment you saw differences between us, you just thought it would be best to take advantage. Screenshots are clear above. It's ok, the money doesn't matter to me, but you sure will understand the difference between 100$ and 10000$. This arguement happened barely 3-5 days before getting paid, and we worked on it for a long time, the time wasted on you guys and setting something solid is what stings me, and this arbitration will put that to ease.
 
iocyex сказал(а):
Your logic is confusing.
First, you cheated me of my money first, and up to now, you have not paid off the money in full.
Second, before you cheated me of my money, the 10k return you mentioned did not come true. So at that time, I didn't know whether the 10k could really be returned. I only knew that you cheated my money. And, you told me smugly in front of me how stupid I was to trust you.
Third, it was not my decision whether to give you the 10k. You also mentioned that he was controlled by a third party. I just told him that you cheated my money, and if possible, the fraudster should be punished.
You cheated me out of my money, and I'll destroy everything you have. I don't care what your reasons are.I think that's fair.
Can you prove your words with logs, screenshots or other evidences? If yes, do it please.
 
My telegram account got taken down, i think i know who is doing this.
admin think of it, its been almost 6 months, if i had actually ripped him off, wouldnt he post here? I never held money in my hands, i was told i will be given my share so there is no chance of ripping. I was just putting in work trusting that the right thing will be done when time comes to share. For months i worked.

Also together me and @glolimited (tg) had already paid him thousands before this operation, so paying someone their share is nothing new to me.. i have a lot of trades here, i have reported a lot of scammers and dont have even 1 single black about me. He would trust me with codes and i paid him thousands without any problems, even when i got ripped, i still made sure i paid him, he knows this as well, just his fat ego wont let it in that i called him names when they were trying to test my patience.
I might have gotten pissed because these people started to treat me like i was their worker and out of anger might have said them insulting things but that doesnt change the equation still, pay me for this deal and we dont have to deal again after! i owed person 200-250$ and they owed me 10k +- for afore mentioned operation , out of which even after he blocked me i paid him 150$ extra, i think barely 100$ will be left, i am ready to pay that if he is ready to pay my 10000 but when he started to call me names i thought it was no point in giving the 100$ coz they ran away with 100x that which was supposed to be mine.
btw in theory if i owed u 100, and u owed me 10000, YOU STILL OWED ME 9900. why is that so difficult? Ok to make it simple, consider this example, i owed u 100$ and u owed me 200$, YOU STILL WOULD OWE ME 100$, i hope this math is simple for you. If i like u said scammed you for 100$ like u said, that makes it justified to scam me for 9900? Why the fuck will i bother for 100$ when i am getting 100x of that. This is dumb to think that you will get away with something like this, you might be some kind of a big boss in your place, here everyone is equal, so go beat your stick !

We are fraudsters but we dont dig holes in each others pockets, atleast in my part of reality.
 
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Can you prove your words with logs, screenshots or other evidences? If yes, do it please.
Sorry,I dont have,because this happened half a year ago.I was very angry at the time, so I deleted and blocked him.
but i have some chat-history with third party about this guy.if it help.
 
iocyex сказал(а):
Third, it was not my decision whether to give you the 10k. You also mentioned that he was controlled by a third party. I just told him that you cheated my money, and if possible, the fraudster should be punished.
I tried to speak things to you so as to get my money but fuck you, now that we are in the open lets do this dance, dont forget i was the one who showed you the 340k tax dance, introduced to my people for you to bitch behind my back? only this gleesh was a rat like you, others would not even entertain you if u said anything out of order about me.
this 366$, i paid 200-250 out of that within 1-2 days, now what about when u told me 1$ per tax form was ok, and u asked me for my wallet then ? did you even pay 1$, for all the forms i sent you, you should have had the sense to compensate my remaining debt and not keep poking me until i had some free cash from the play we were working on... i sent definitely more number of forms than what i owed you maybe even multiples of that, but you being ungrateful and taking advantage of me being a team player in good faith. i clearly had told you what my position was that time financially, not that green. but look at me now, i could pay you monthly salary now ;) haha, times change, charactor should not.
You just proved your own self here thank you, you said the third party aka gleesh controlled the play but here you are clearly telling him not to pay me even when he is saying that atleast something should be paid lol, because it is convenient for you and your ego.... listen, rat, in the deal my role was to be a bridge and help as i could, remember this would not have happened if i did not connect the pieces, you had something and i had someone who could work with what you had, and you agreed to the proposition because you were bound to win none the less with least amount of risk or investment. i could have just took it from you for 100-200$(maybe not even that, i could have taken it and paid u once play was done, and i think you would have not minded that) and sent it to him but i did the greater thing and the more transparent thing to make you both meet in order for this to be scaled up with transparency, now instead of 100$-200$ i showed u and made you partner for making upto 3-4k for same damn shit, but you are both are ungrateful because i was naive to trust you both like i did, but it's fair, lesson learnt; the bromance you guys having would not be there if i did not introduce you both to each other in good light, so fuck you.. he is busy wooing you lol and i get that, but dont expect that from me, you did nothing for me which i could not do 100times over for you, you arrogant, self obsessed wannabe gangster, Get your mathemetics right, pay what u owe me minus what i owe you, show me if i said i dint intend to pay you and if u cannot do that then please dont boast about charactor here. We are fraudsters and there is this arbitration category for problems like this, prove me i owe you more than you owe me and i will gladly terminate this arbitration, but hey, you cannot do that even if you tried.
 
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I don't owe you anything. And, on the Internet, once there is no trust, then nothing will exist. You cheated me of money, even if it was a small amount, which means you lost my trust, and you are marked as a liar in my eyes.
You don't have to brag about how rich you are now, that has nothing to do with me. In my opinion, you cheated my money and you are a liar.
Cheating is not about how much, once you cheat, you must bear the consequences.
I don't want to waste time arguing with you, let the admin make the decision.
Like I said, I respect any opinion from admin.
 
I never cheated you, neither had any intentions to do this, it is simply unbelievable to digest what you saying, 10k vs. 100$, even a blind person can see this.
If u can prove i did not pay u even after you blocked me then i will close this, but did u do the same? When u lost trust in me, i lost it in you and gleesh. at the end it comes down to this, i deserved a share which i worked for and u took it away, whatever the reason is, it doesnt matter. i did not jeopardize the operation even after this kind of treatment of yours which i could have easily by just reporting it to the bank with proofs. Lastly, We are not forced to work after, but what had been started had to be ended in a dignified manner and we all go our way.
Over to the admin now!
 
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Странная ситуация, логи по большей части отсутствуют. Удалены обоими сторонами в разное время. Я пока не могу сложить общую картину. Каждая сторона говорит, что обманули ее, но реальных прямых пруфов нет. Возможно, у вас остались еще какие-то доказательства? Скрины переводов, логи?
 
admin, yes this is very strange indeed and i did not want to raise it. What happened essentially was this guy kept poking me for the little debt i had at the time, and i got mad at him and just reminded him what i did for him while sharing a lot of key stuff and opportunities while still paying him what i could that time, he did not seem to like it, maybe its not his personality or whatever but idk him personally or IRL. When i got mad at him he got mad at me too and it just escalated from there like it usually does. it might have been something i said to him and he did not like it but it was in the spur of anger for both parties and my anger is justified because of his continued poking even while a bigger payout was just knocking on the wallet anytime now. even after this unprecedented attitude towards me i still sent him any more money i arranged which i thought would help calm things down, in hopes i can recover my share and we go our ways. he was highly disrespectful on this attempt as well. I understand anger sometimes takes the best of us but that doesnt change the arithmetics, I AM till this day ready to pay him what he thinks i owe him even though he knows wht i did for him was far more than that, i showed him a way.
i was doing that back then anyway but what about my money then boss? and then what he says about a cheater for small money is still a cheater, that is disrespectful to me, because i care about my reputation.

I have lost more money in arbitration in you check all my posts that what the defendant claims from me. In short, this is a matter of me not massaging his ego like being massaged here
..and the moment he found a reason (our arguement) and my differences with third party he thought he can just label me whatever. if he had a real case why would he delete entire chats even in anger, rather he would post about it here where we met. i am sure in time he will see what i was trying to do for him and the importance of a bridge, like i said again it is not about the money but about the disrespect i felt in this experience.

In short, if i scammed him, please tell me with proof iocyex what is owed by me and i will send it to admin, but iocyex should do the same thing for my share of the money,no matter whatever amount, if not even 10k ( 6.8k was loan + cc top up which we had from another self reg approx 7-8k + dropping check into the aged account (15-25k) 33% of this, ill settle for a little less, otherwise just ban him. if he cannot respect my share of money, then he doesnt respect his reputation here.
that is the only solution out of this dear admin, i showed my heartfelt support to xss with premium membership more than what defendant claims from me it is funny so funny and that is why also highly disrepectful also. All screenshots prove what i was owed vs what he claims i owed him, this should be enough to establish the nature of the case boss. I trust xss like its my own forum, i share and try to help here at the forum as much and when i can, not like a leech like the defendant, and i hope people read this and learn from my mistakes also there is some sweet details of making money i just shared because why not eh ?
 
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я не стал перечитывать все это
но я скажу свое слово знаю

unkunk​

уже около года
дал материал мне вперед без денег и оплат на полном доверии как это делали очень старые и бывалые люди и очень сильно давно
знаю что у него есть ебическое количество любого материала который можно только представить
знать не знаю что этот апонент хочет от него но свой отзыв и мнение я предоставил
надеюсь это поможет администрации в вынесении решения
всех с наступающим хоспода и господа
 
xmpp сказал(а):
я не стал перечитывать все это
но я скажу свое слово знаю

unkunk​

уже около года
дал материал мне вперед без денег и оплат на полном доверии как это делали очень старые и бывалые люди и очень сильно давно
знаю что у него есть ебическое количество любого материала который можно только представить
знать не знаю что этот апонент хочет от него но свой отзыв и мнение я предоставил
надеюсь это поможет администрации в вынесении решения
всех с наступающим хоспода и господа
always like also in this case where i sent tbs of tax forms, but not everyone is grateful. Thanks, I respect your candidness.
 
Всё таки, unkunk предоставил больше доказательств и аргументов. iocyex говорит, что ничего не получал, но не смог предоставить ни одного скриншота/логов, вообще ничего. Похоже, что unkunk прав. Опять же, у нас полное отсутствие логов/доказательств, мне нужно принимать решение на основе частичных данных и косвенных доказательств. Но, как и сказал, я склоняюсь к тому, что unkunk говорит правду и прав. Да и ответчик проявляет не слишком большое желание участвовать в арбитраже, это тоже плохо.
iocyex, прошу выплатить половину, т.е. 5к$, в течении 72 часов. Считаю, это будет компромиссное решение.

Still, unkunk provided more evidence and arguments. iocyex says he didn't receive anything, but he couldn't provide any screenshots/logs, nothing at all. Looks like unkunk is right. Again, we have a complete lack of logs/evidence, I need to make a decision based on partial data and circumstantial evidence. But, as I said, I'm inclined to think that unkunk is telling the truth and is right. And the defendant is not very willing to participate in arbitration, that's also bad.
iocyex, I ask you to pay half, i.e. $5k, within 72 hours. I think this will be a compromise solution.
 
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