WinApi learning

[Yuji0x01]

hey guys...so i'm trying to learn about WinApi nd Win32 which looks some kind hard to be honest...including to that post i sow here before a time about starting in malware devloppment...this is the 0x2 step...so i've learned enough about c++ (basics only) and know it's kinda hard for me to learn WinApi speacilly that all the resource i can find are on the russian language ( which i'm trying to learn before a while '-' ) and even if i found a resource in youtube or somthing like that...they don't explain anything...it's like for expert level....

so please...does anyone have resource for a begineer to learn about this one? cz i really tried to find abt that and i couldn't...thanks ^_^

 

[el84]

Did you not found anything in this topic useful?

 

[Yuji0x01]

Did you not found anything in this topic useful?

i did and i donwload all of'em but i found that thy were in russian language...

 

[Yuji0x01]

Did you not found anything in this topic useful?

look Посмотреть вложение 69982

 

[ice80]

( which i'm trying to learn before a while '-'

I case which u talking about, better start to learn Chainese, my freind.
abt winapi and any malware dev. for windows: look on Proccess Hacker source code and on System Informer .h files.
Also ReactOS source code very helpful in case u need to know how things works on windows platform.

And pls not get Mad then retardeds and kids-trolls on that forum or another will be bulling you by sending to the google or chatgpt, stay hard u choose not easy way, I respect it man.

Remeber: for ask quastion in "right way" - u need to know like 50% of the answer, so try to dig as much deeper in topic which u reasearching as u can and post more details about area u intresting right now and as much debug output as u have.

Good luck little one, wish u success and enjoy in conversations with Windbg.

 

[coder]

I case which u talking about, better start to learn Chainese, my freind.
abt winapi and any malware dev. for windows: look on Proccess Hacker source code and on System Informer .h files.
Also ReactOS source code very helpful in case u need to know how things works on windows platform.

And pls not get Mad then retardeds and kids-trolls on that forum or another will be bulling you by sending to the google or chatgpt, stay hard u choose not easy way, I respect it man.

Remeber: for ask quastion in "right way" - u need to know like 50% of the answer, so try to dig as much deeper in topic which u reasearching as u can and post more details about area u intresting right now and as much debug output as u have.

Good luck little one, wish u success and enjoy in conversations with Windbg.

Причем процессхакер к малдеву?

 

[coder]

hey guys...so i'm trying to learn about WinApi nd Win32 which looks some kind hard to be honest...including to that post i sow here before a time about starting in malware devloppment...this is the 0x2 step...so i've learned enough about c++ (basics only) and know it's kinda hard for me to learn WinApi speacilly that all the resource i can find are on the russian language ( which i'm trying to learn before a while '-' ) and even if i found a resource in youtube or somthing like that...they don't explain anything...it's like for expert level....

so please...does anyone have resource for a begineer to learn about this one? cz i really tried to find abt that and i couldn't...thanks ^_^

Я бы начал с простой литературы по computer science, потом алгоритмы, вместе с языком на котором планируешь писать. Когда чувствуешь себя более менее уверенно, углубляйся на уровень ниже (к винапи). Без математики и алгоритмов учить нечего, это бесполезно. Даже если ты что то зазубришь, у тебя будет уходить очень много времени на осванивание последующего материала

 

[Yuji0x01]

I case which u talking about, better start to learn Chainese, my freind.
abt winapi and any malware dev. for windows: look on Proccess Hacker source code and on System Informer .h files.
Also ReactOS source code very helpful in case u need to know how things works on windows platform.

And pls not get Mad then retardeds and kids-trolls on that forum or another will be bulling you by sending to the google or chatgpt, stay hard u choose not easy way, I respect it man.

Remeber: for ask quastion in "right way" - u need to know like 50% of the answer, so try to dig as much deeper in topic which u reasearching as u can and post more details about area u intresting right now and as much debug output as u have.

Good luck little one, wish u success and enjoy in conversations with Windbg.

i only have 17 years '-'...and actually it's just a while when i take that time to learn abt C++...i've learned other languages such as C#,php,python,sql(check my github:https://github.com/dahmanAl9r?tab=repositories) and i've read other things such as CEH ( but doesn't really good tbh, i prefer OSCP) and about network hacking...and i've great knowledge in bug bounty...but what i'm looking for is to be better in C/C++, which can make me able to understand how malwares work like ransomwares,rats, rootkits ext,i sow some source codes of ransomwares like babuk ransom..and i couldn't understand anything tbh '-'

 

[Yuji0x01]

Я бы начал с простой литературы по computer science, потом алгоритмы, вместе с языком на котором планируешь писать. Когда чувствуешь себя более менее уверенно, углубляйся на уровень ниже (к винапи). Без математики и алгоритмов учить нечего, это бесполезно. Даже если ты что то зазубришь, у тебя будет уходить очень много времени на осванивание последующего материала

can you explain more please?...and thanks

 

[coder]

can you explain more please?...and thanks

Explain what? Ask concrete questions, i'll answer

 

[Yuji0x01]

Explain what? Ask concrete questions, i'll answer

if you were in my place...what would you do? should i learn about somthing before i get in WinApi...? is this a wiste of time if i didn't learn somthing else like getting deeper in c++? can u give me some advices? and some resources?...i would be really thankful if u did that..and by the way i think it's good to start withh C/C++ knowing that are faster more othr langagues...and even have more resources...so u can't compare its with other languages such as C#(even it's kinda fast)

 

[ice80]

babuk ransom

its peace of shit tbh. most malware devs here talking like: ransomware - the simplest malware ever, but making the fast a durable encryptor not easy at all. babuk for ESXi and
linux will corrapt encrypted files: thats why they trow away that code as a trash to the public.

Причем процессхакер к малдеву?

ProcessHacker/ProcessHacker/main.c at master · PKRoma/ProcessHacker

A free, powerful, multi-purpose tool that helps you monitor system resources, debug software and detect malware—mirror of https://github.com/processhacker2/processhacker.git - PKRoma/ProcessHacker

github.com

вот сходу пример как чекать MitigationSignaturePolicy, внутри PH куча полезных сннипетов кода + коменты к ним
+ сорцы драйвера с кучей фунционала, который все еще успешно абузиться несмотря на loldrivers

 

[coder]

its peace of shit tbh. most malware devs here talking like: ransomware - the simplest malware ever, but making the fast a durable encryptor not easy at all. babuk for ESXi and
linux will corrapt encrypted files: thats why they trow away that code as a trash to the public.

ProcessHacker/ProcessHacker/main.c at master · PKRoma/ProcessHacker

A free, powerful, multi-purpose tool that helps you monitor system resources, debug software and detect malware—mirror of https://github.com/processhacker2/processhacker.git - PKRoma/ProcessHacker

github.com

вот сходу пример как чекать MitigationSignaturePolicy, внутри PH куча полезных сннипетов кода + коменты к ним

Это всё есть в доке, здесь половина форума дергает готовые снипеты с опенсорс проектов, и что в итоге? На рынке нет ничего кроме примитив стилеров и лоадеров, потому что ньюфаги ща даже инжект в процесс сами закодить не могут

 

[Yuji0x01]

its peace of shit tbh. most malware devs here talking like: ransomware - the simplest malware ever, but making the fast a durable encryptor not easy at all. babuk for ESXi and
linux will corrapt encrypted files: thats why they trow away that code as a trash to the public.

ProcessHacker/ProcessHacker/main.c at master · PKRoma/ProcessHacker

A free, powerful, multi-purpose tool that helps you monitor system resources, debug software and detect malware—mirror of https://github.com/processhacker2/processhacker.git - PKRoma/ProcessHacker

github.com

вот сходу пример как чекать MitigationSignaturePolicy, внутри PH куча полезных сннипетов кода + коменты к ним
+ сорцы драйвера с кучей фунционала, который все еще успешно абузиться несмотря на loldrivers

what!! are you serious!!! i thought that ransomware is powerfull...they use Go and C++ for it...and it has a complicated encryption algorithm...right?

 

[coder]

А про дров, там есть проверка на отправляющий процесс. Т.е если IOCTL запрос шлет не подписанный валидным сертом ProcessHacker.exe, будет облом. Я как то ковырял пх, у меня есть пок дампа лсасс через него. За пределы локалки это не выходило, хз что там по детектам самого драйвера

 

[ice80]

На рынке нет ничего кроме примитив стилеров и лоадеров

на рынке есть все, широкой публике нормальные вещи не предлагают, масс-маркет малварь - уебище по оперделению и нормальной быть не может, через час после начала пролива полетят сигнатуры и все труды псу под хвост.
я не призываю дергать копипастить, изучать нужно то что написанно в любом случае, но чужой код не использовать совсем - так себе идея, самые простые вещи писать будешь неделями - да и + по началу лучше 50 летних дядей пишущих всю жизнь - лучше их не напишешь - главное понимать как код работает.

 

[ice80]

i thought that ransomware is powerfull..

that peace of shit man. 100%

 

[Yuji0x01]

Это всё есть в доке, здесь половина форума дергает готовые снипеты с опенсорс проектов, и что в итоге? На рынке нет ничего кроме примитив стилеров и лоадеров, потому что ньюфаги ща даже инжект в процесс сами закодить не могут

so you two guys...please...what would you recommand for me for not just wisting time as evryday...i want to take a great path including to your experience in malware devloppement...knowing that i just have basic knowledge in C/C++ such as data types,pointers,arrays,functions,strings,structs ext...

 

[ice80]

what would you recommand for me for not just wisting time as evryday

I recomned ya first to choose a area. for example making a credential dumper or banking trojan or ransomware or c2 implant - u need to choose and be kinda more focused, cus the topic is very complicated and not simple at all. After u choose it send msg or post it here

 

[coder]

на рынке есть все, широкой публике нормальные вещи не предлагают, масс-маркет малварь - уебище по оперделению и нормальной быть не может, через час после начала пролива полетят сигнатуры и все труды псу под хвост.
я не призываю дергать копипастить, изучать нужно то что написанно в любом случае, но чужой код не использовать совсем - так себе идея, самые простые вещи писать будешь неделями - да и + по началу лучше 50 летних дядей пишущих всю жизнь - лучше их не напишешь - главное понимать как код работает.

В привате тоже ничего нет, вот я вчера трикбот реверсил, там всё грустно. Ну может у нас с тобой разный "приват", лично я никогда не рансомил, но суть в том что даже по форуму можно определить общий уровень образованности кодеров. Никто не хочет учиться, куча вопросов "с чего начать" и т.д